CDC on 5/21: Coronavirus Mortality Ratio is .26%

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<header class="single-entry-header" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: 1.5em; color: rgb(64, 64, 64); font-family: "Source Sans Pro"; font-size: 16px;">[h=1]WE NEED BETTER EXPERTS: CDC Admits Coronavirus Mortality Ratio is Similar to 1957-58 Flu Pandemic Where No Lockdown Was Needed[/h]
</header>[FONT=&quot]Gateway Pundit:
The CDC admitted this week that the mortality ratio for the COVID-19 virus is simlar to the mortality rate of 1957-1958 flu pandemic, and yet NO LOCKDOWNS in 1957-58.
As tweeted by Andrew Bostom, Academic MD & author of The Legacy of Jihad, The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism, Sharia Versus Freedom:


The CDC concedes infection fatality ratio (IFR of) “Covid19/Wuhan flu” is = 0.27% … virtually identical to 1957-58 pandemic H2N2 flu in U.S. which was 0.26%. But no lockdowns in 1957-58.
Because U.S. did not “lockdown” in 1957-8, as noted by great epidemiologist D.A. Henderson, the H2N2 pandemic “did not appear to have a significant impact on the U.S. economy”





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[festeringZit]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios-h.pdf

 

[CHOPTALK]

So does this mean 40,000,000 people in the USA has or had covid so far?

 

[festeringZit]

So does this mean 40,000,000 people in the USA has or had covid so far?

Or are they saying that people getting marked as dying from Corona, are actually dying from other causes?

Not sure...

 

[festeringZit]

Page 4 of the document says this:

 

[festeringZit]

"The scenarios are intended to advance public health preparedness and planning. They are not predictions or estimates of the expected impact of COVID-19. The parameter values in each scenario will be updated and augmented over time, as we learn more about the epidemiology of COVID-19. Additional parameter values might be added in the future (e.g., population density, household transmission, and/or race and ethnicity). "


Not sure what they are saying as far as it being a "planning" figure.. if it's not the most accurate estimate of the mortality rate that they can come up with? Any ideas out there?

 

[Heatwave]

40M is 12% of the USA population of 327M.

The current US data shows that 5.7% of tests come back positive, but in April that number was closer to 20% for a period of time.

So, yes, 40M or 12% of US population having Covid seems pretty likely.

 

[festeringZit]

40M is 12% of the USA population of 327M.

The current US data shows that 5.7% of tests come back positive, but in April that number was closer to 20% for a period of time.

So, yes, 40M or 12% of US population having Covid seems pretty likely.

My son who's college age thinks he and almost everyone he works with had it in January.

 

[Heatwave]

I have heard that from many people. Same here in my family as we were all nasty sick in February. But the reality is that if 1 out of every 10 people get it, most people that think they had it probably didn't.

Can't help but look at CDC data for flu seasons once again:

2016-2017 - 29.2M estimated to have the flu, with 38K dying.
2017-2018 - 44.8M estimated to have the flu, with 61K dying.
2018-2019 - 35.5M estimated to have the flu, with 35K dying.

So, 40M is right in line with flu seasons from years past. Death average over these 3 years at 45K. Flu seasons usually last 12-21 weeks, and COVID is at about 16 weeks right now.

COVID deaths unfortunately much higher. Had we done a better job protecting the elderly and those compromised, the death rate would have looked similar to the flu in my opinion.

My son who's college age thinks he and almost everyone he works with had it in January.

 

[HacheMan]

Jeeez guys just read the stories of the ppl who HAVE caught it

It's not something you want to risk getting

Just found out a pastor's wife I know has had it for 2 months fighting it in the hospital

That's not 4 ppl I know personally who are all under 40 with no underlying issues who have had one hell of a time with it

 

[HarryCaray]

I have heard that from many people. Same here in my family as we were all nasty sick in February. But the reality is that if 1 out of every 10 people get it, most people that think they had it probably didn't.

I thought I might have had it in February, but recently tested negative for antibodies.

 

[THawk+]

I am betting the rate is even lower than what the joke CDC has said.

More people have been exposed to this and for longer period of time, like since December....

They really need to start a huge antibody testing campaign right now so they actually have an idea on how widespread this just really is
Testing to just see if someone has it now is totally useless, the count of infected is meaningless at this point and accomplishes nothing.

Test those with symptoms, health care, and worker in nursing/care facilities. Contact tracing is totally useless now also you do that at the beginning to
try and cut off the spread not in the midst of the virus. These idiot politicians and public health officials have no clue what they are doing and just wasting time and money on things that are useless at this point.

Go and do research on experts who do this for a living who no one in government is actually following and see what they are saying...

 

[azbob]

States are now invested in overstating impact so they can get more money. Across the entire world, those under 40 dying without underlying conditions is very, very rare. Just remember obesity, diabetes, vaping, smoking, drug taking, asthma and others cause (or are) underlying conditions. All of those smoking options, including pot, negatively effect the lungs which are the prime target for this virus. The numbers above are deaths from flu. Another 50k die annually in the US from pneumonia. There are currently no PN deaths as they all are attributed to Corona including some of those younger people who might be in a low risk condition group.

I don't mind over reaction in Feb-March because we didn't know the facts. To still be shut down in May reflects fear, incompetence and the ongoing demented paternal instinct of government lifers.

 

[Seymour]

I thought I might have had it in February, but recently tested negative for antibodies.

I tested negative for antibodies too - eight people in my family had Corona - but they live in NJ near NYC - five 20 year olds - were barely sick - three adults in their late 50's not not in bad shape but not in great condition - the adults were real sick for about two weeks - not in the hospital or nothing but dinged up at home

 

[Heatwave]

I have, and I know that you are personally affected, and I am sorry for you and those that you are close with who have dealt with this. I hope that everyone pulls through it.

The truth is that this virus attacks mostly vulnerable. But sometimes it attacks others who aren't or don't appear vulnerable. That is a bit scary, and I don't mean any ill feelings here to anyone who has had to deal with these particulars.

However, those who get hit and aren't vulnerable seem like the exception as opposed to the rule. Makes it harder to deal with for sure. However, COVID isn't unlike the flu and pneumonia - included in those stats above are also people who weren't or didn't appear vulnerable. Unfortunately life is full of bad luck and risks.

Jeeez guys just read the stories of the ppl who HAVE caught it

It's not something you want to risk getting

Just found out a pastor's wife I know has had it for 2 months fighting it in the hospital

That's not 4 ppl I know personally who are all under 40 with no underlying issues who have had one hell of a time with it

 

[hehateme82]

I still know 0 people who have had it. One person I know killed themselves. Pussy virus.

 

[Willie99]

Jeeez guys just read the stories of the ppl who HAVE caught it

It's not something you want to risk getting

Just found out a pastor's wife I know has had it for 2 months fighting it in the hospital

That's not 4 ppl I know personally who are all under 40 with no underlying issues who have had one hell of a time with it

Hache my friend, nobody wants to catch a seasonal flu either. Nobody wants to catch pneumonia, nobody wants to be in a fatal accident, and lord knows nobody wants to test positive for cancer. Yet that all happens too.

I hope your daughter is doing well.

My experience with this virus is very different than yours. Thus far, nobody close to me has contracted it that we know of. Three twice removed cases, none life threatening. And a client's brother died in NJ. Supposedly he was a compromised individual

 

[HacheMan]

I have, and I know that you are personally affected, and I am sorry for you and those that you are close with who have dealt with this. I hope that everyone pulls through it.

The truth is that this virus attacks mostly vulnerable. But sometimes it attacks others who aren't or don't appear vulnerable. That is a bit scary, and I don't mean any ill feelings here to anyone who has had to deal with these particulars.

However, those who get hit and aren't vulnerable seem like the exception as opposed to the rule. Makes it harder to deal with for sure. However, COVID isn't unlike the flu and pneumonia - included in those stats above are also people who weren't or didn't appear vulnerable. Unfortunately life is full of bad luck and risks.

Hache my friend, nobody wants to catch a seasonal flu either. Nobody wants to catch pneumonia, nobody wants to be in a fatal accident, and lord knows nobody wants to test positive for cancer. Yet that all happens too.

I hope your daughter is doing well.

My experience with this virus is very different than yours. Thus far, nobody close to me has contracted it that we know of. Three twice removed cases, none life threatening. And a client's brother died in NJ. Supposedly he was a compromised individual

Many ppl who have no known or visible underlying symptoms also suffer from the virus.

Could the only explanation be that some ppl have hidden underlying health issues that MIGHT NOT SHOW UP FOR YEARS, and this virus doesn't wait to to expose & attack them?

Sounds logical right?

 

[THawk+]

Many ppl who have no known or visible underlying symptoms also suffer from the virus.

Could the only explanation be that some ppl have hidden underlying health issues that MIGHT NOT SHOW UP FOR YEARS, and this virus doesn't wait to to expose & attack them?

Sounds logical right?

If you have ever taken statistics classes you know there are things called outliers.

The statistical number/percentage of totally healthy people who have died from this is very, very low
All you need to do is look at the statistics...

Yes, I know your daughter has/had it I hope she is doing well but it seems you are letting that cloud your judgement

 

[Willie99]

Many ppl who have no known or visible underlying symptoms also suffer from the virus.

Could the only explanation be that some ppl have hidden underlying health issues that MIGHT NOT SHOW UP FOR YEARS, and this virus doesn't wait to to expose & attack them?

Sounds logical right?

No, I think it your body rids itself of this virus and increases your immunity to this virus even if you're asymptomatic

Butt I'm no Mob scientist